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Dougie's Friday Mail Bag (Spence-Garcia, Women's Ring Titles, Linear Championship)

Dougie's Friday Mail Bag (Spence-Garcia, Women's Ring Titles, Linear Championship)


Hei Doug,

I pray for you and your loved ones properly and all of the mailbox readers and their households are doing good.

For Garcia and Spence battles. It is a great battle with two associates who’re predators. This won’t be Canelo and Khan, who was not in harmony with the moments he did not sign as a result of Canelo is so good (he isn’t), but Khan had no chin or a beat to win. Garcia has each and is a better technician. She has studied Spence and has seen the shortcomings she will take, and I feel her remedy is even par.

I really like the best way both fighters struggle, however the Spence sequel is just not that spectacular. Only two buddies – Algeri and Brooks – are pals with a official opportunity and neither guy was actually every little thing. Brooks was given a choice towards Porter (should have been drawn) I do not agree and Algeri acquired a gift vs. Siberian Rocky.

This isn’t a contradiction and I feel Garcia wins as a result of I feel he can save the storm and I don't assume he can be scared at all. I like Mikey's expertise better.

Spence begins to feel slightly bit and is certain for me. Can't await battle.

Comfortable to see Julian Jackson and Donald Curry that they have been my two favorites. Nigel Benn should have carried out it based mostly on his performance by Gerald McClellan alone. One of many biggest performances in one of the largest and more excessive struggles that I have ever seen. I will never forget the braveness shown by Benn during such a nasty attack. He actually climbed back into the ring. Unimaginable. Nice battle with the sad end result. God bless and take care. – Blood and Guts Phillystä

I agree that The Dark Destroyer has earned the International Boxing Hall of Fame, and still I am voting in favor of his (and his country's rival, Chris Eubank, who feels useless) until each come.

I’m also glad to see Jackson and Curry (in addition to Tony DeMarco and Buddy McGirt), which has been introduced IBHOF in reference to the 30-year anniversary. It’s nice that each one honored fighters are alive and nicely. This is among the matchups I wasn't positive about when it was first announced, mainly as a result of I need to see Spence as an alternative of prime weight as an alternative of lightweight, nevertheless it grew to me when the battle day approached. It's like Wilder-Fury's Matchup, the place most fans and pundits dropped down after their announcement, but steadily gave Fur a sensible shot once they discovered about their intense focus and information of his profitable camp. The identical goes for Mikey. The sincerity proven in his interviews and the footage of his training within the SNAC facility have convinced him that he can a minimum of make it a battle if he does not withdraw. So, I’m now in this battle. I would not have a horse on this race (regardless that I opted for Spence to win), I anticipate solely fascinating, high-quality boxing.

It's an ideal battle with two buddies who are predators. Two SKILLFUL hunters

This won’t be Canelo and Khan, who was not in concord with the moments he did not signal as a result of Canelo just isn’t so good (he doesn't), but Khan had no chin or beats to win. Sure, we knew we have been going to that matchup, and still thought Khan was snug ahead at the time of the cold break.

Garcia has each and is a better technician. Yes, he’s a more good fighter than Khan, as well as a greater technician with more dependable cheekbones, however he isn’t as quick, various or cellular as a British veteran, which can make it more durable to avoid Spence's clever strain. I'm unsure it's a very good factor to get a robust chin towards Spence.

She has been learning Spence and seeing the mistakes she will make, and I feel her remedy is even par. Due to him, it’s higher to be! And though I'm positive that Garcia is a strong recreation plan for 16 March, it’s one factor scence, fairly another to struggle towards him.

Spence was all over the place in Algier. Photograph / Ed Diller-DiBellaEnt

I really like the best way both fighters struggle, however the Spence sequel shouldn’t be as impressive. Solely two pals – Algeri and Brooks – are buddies with a authentic opportunity and neither man was actually every thing. I really like Chris Algier, but did you actually assume he had a authorized probability of profitable Spence? I selected Brook to beat Spence, and for the American Olympic credit score he traveled to the defensive signatory's hometown and confiscated the robust battle of the IBF belt in the late rounds. Spence really confirmed his character on this battle.

Brooks was given a choice towards Porter (should have been drawn) I didn’t agree and Algeri acquired a present vs. a Siberian rock. I assumed Brooks deserved a choice about Porter, and once I thought Provodnikov gained Algier with two factors, I didn't see Chris's victory as a "gift."

This is not a contradiction, and I feel Garcia wins because I really feel he can save the storm and I don't assume he can be intimidated at all. I know he isn’t intimidated, but I'm unsure he can save the storm.

I like Mikey's expertise higher. I don't find out about it. I feel Garcia is more skilled, perhaps extra good, but I feel they are one with the talents and know-how. Don't overlook that Spence's newbie background is wider than Garcia, and she or he is understood more than a boxer than a prize-shot. I feel Spence is extra of a boxer and more versatile than you recognize.

Spence begins to really feel a bit of bit and is certain for me. Nicely, if he’s convinced that he underestimates Garcia, he’s in hassle, however I feel he understands the scope of this battle and respects the four wards of the belt.

Can't await battle. I hope they pack the AT&T stadium and supply an important occasion for pay-per-view.


Hello Fischer, just some questions about feminine play right here.

It is gratifying that Ring has provided its first feminine identify to the Shields / Hammer winner. Braekhaus, the first undisputed champion? What was the justification for ignoring him and deciding to provide the primary ring belt to another undisputed master?

I know The First Woman was donated to the p4p belt, but if you need to select what Cecilia is the strongest, the most effective of p4p, or the most effective of her weight, certainly it is her greatest weight, the p4p state of affairs could also be open to debate, but her dominance in her weight simply not. (I do know he in all probability grabs both packing containers).

Do you additionally need to start classifying ladies by weight? And in that case, how can this be adopted? As within the prime 5, or particularly within the prime 10, each division could be very troublesome to trace with such a small exposure. And how do you create the championship standards? When ladies have a lot much less weight than males, the truth that it is open to five would really dampen the quality of the masters. – Alan, Scotland

One step at a time, Alan

Finally, we embrace ladies's scores on the Ring, however first I have to compile a professional score panel. I am positive that we get this time in the summer months.

Shields and Hammer struggle for the first Ring Ladies's Championship.

The so-called Showdown recreation between April 13 and April at Claressa Shields and Christina Hammer is The Ring's Ladies's Boxing Championship. This isn’t solely because all 4 of the headings of the penalty preparations are on the line (though it’s definitely a part of it), because Shields and Hammer are clearly the two greatest bitches inside the 160kg division. It was more smart for me to reward the first-ever winner of the First Woman Championship with a reasonably high-profile, excessive profile presentation to 2 non-winning unit holders somewhat than sorting “retrospectively” for its award to a single, dominant single headmaster.

Don’t let me incorrect, I agree that Braekhus is value Ring ladies in the weight-title, but plainly he does not at present have a useful competitor.

I might have been a Ring Editor four and a half years ago when he was going to merge all four titles towards Ivana Habazin, perhaps I might have instructed that the winner of this race can be topped as the first Ring Ladies's greeting. (I need to admit, nevertheless, that I did not comply with ladies's boxing as intently as in 2014, and perhaps the thought would not have happened to me.) extra pure 135 and I take Katie Taylor), I find that the jury is signing the 147 pound title of the opening ring for ladies.


Pricey Dougie,

I acquired some issues which are outdated and never urgent, however perhaps you might reply them in a couple of weeks once you mail

  1. Canelo-Golovkin II. I used to be not the only one who thought Golvk gained, nevertheless it appears to me to be one of the few who noticed him win more clearly than his first encounter. It appeared to me that the mere proven fact that Canelo made the GGG move backwards believed that he gained. However I felt that GGG was persistently more environment friendly in shifting backward than Canelo pushes him.

I also thought that GGG steadily received better from spherical 4–12. How do you assume the championship would have been a basic 15

I'm unsure I'd wish to see the third battle. I'm afraid it will be another shut struggle, but this time, even with me (one of the terrible "Golovkin-nut-Huggers" as Twitter would have meant me) would see Canelo's victory. However one factor is for certain: I'd take a look at it.

  1. I had an identical view of Fury-Wilder. Fury made his opponents look clumsy and tidy, but true, but he didn't benefit as much as he ought to have gained. There was a spherical the place Fury moved and blasted properly and nonetheless touched enough to lose the round. The truth that Fury seemed so slippery does not mean he would have gained. I was happy with drawing but truthfully stunned so many people shouted (or slightly written) "robbery".
  2. Anatoly Lomachenko and his son. For a very long time, this relationship seemed to me slightly twisted. Papachenko had so much emotional manipulation (the fact that he made each childhood wrestle, but clearly Vasya gained, draw probably the most, or how he encouraged his son to do different sports, as long as it was all the time implicit that he ought to make him make his son) Decides to "box" that his want to supply a perfect fighter was all the time more pleasant than his father's love. It took some time to understand that this father-son thing is usually in boxing. Perhaps not as robust as in Lomachenkos, but there’s Mayweathers and proper now Teofime Lopez and Devin Haney are all the time with their fathers, isn't it? Now that I give it some thought: my coach typically brings his son to the health club and that little guy is best than me! Can you point out other necessary examples?

I just lately learn that Papachenko refuses to train his son if he rises again. Demons might say that he doesn’t want his challenge, the "perfect warrior" to fail, however I am inclined to see it as an indication father's care. I feel he doesn't want his son to be harm.

I want to precise my gratitude for the mailbox. Thanks for the late nights in the writings!

MM: Previous Duran vs Young B-Hop @ MW

(PS: I have run for the first time within the US soil in my life a number of The very first thing I will do is purchase myself a print model of The Ring!) Cheers. – Hans from Hamburg

Each single purple wine boxer ought to do once they first go to A superb US. For those who can't find a copy, please contact me. I'm critical!

Previous Roberto Duran vs. Younger Bernard Hopkins? Fascinating legendary Matchup. If the "young people" mean Hopkins in his 20th century – earlier than or instantly after he gained his first world championship – I feel he would see him in a superb struggle with the plump middle-sized version of the Panamanian ATG. However in case you mean B-Hop's Archie Mooresque standards "young", and you're speaking concerning the 30's within the early twentieth mid-Hopkins medium-height model, I feel Philly fighter would give a rough choice and rumpamestaripeli between the ring masters.

Canelo-Golovkin II. I used to be not the one one who thought Golovkin gained, however it appears to me to be one of many few who saw him win more clearly than his first encounter. Most observers saw an in depth battle, although the bulk did not see Canela profitable, scoring it (like me) or 115-113 for GGG. When the spherical of scorching disputes was near, it was troublesome to cry "robbery" on two 115-113 cards to Canelo (until GGGroupie or Teddy Atlas). Nevertheless, you aren’t alone in wanting on the clear victory of Kazakhstan's satisfaction. Harold Lederman (HBO), Brian Campbell (CBS Sports), Gareth A Davies (The Telegraph and The Ring) and Barry Jones (BT Sport) acquired 116-112 for Golovkin. I respect all four boxing expertise and qualifications

I felt that the mere proven fact that Canelo made GGG again, believed that many individuals believed that they had gained. Canelo didn't actually push Golovkin back. He stood on the ground in the midst of the tire and forced the older man right into a field around him.

However I felt that GGG was extra persistently efficient in shifting backward than Canelo wrestled with him. Golovkin was disregarded of Canel when he was walking across the Mexican stars, but Alvarez labored properly in GGG's body. I assumed that both middle frequencies confirmed the specialists' medium and inner know-how (crime and defense).

I also thought that GGG progressively obtained higher from spherical Four-12. Why do you assume the championship round was a basic 15 multiplayer? Golovkin wouldn’t cease Canelo, however he would in all probability have determined to battle with a clear point.

I'm unsure if I need to see the third battle. Who would like to see Golovkin's battle?

I'm afraid it might be one other close battle, however this time, even I (one of many horrible "Golovkin-nut-Huggers", as Twitter would have meant me) would see Canelo's victory. Oh no! That might be the worst thing ever! How are you going to stay with yourself? (? Are you able to inform that I'm being sarcastic)

However one factor is for positive: I might see it. All this factor is, Hans.

I had an analogous view of Fury-Wilder. Fury made his opponents look clumsy and tidy, however true, however he didn't profit as a lot as he should have gained. Yeah, nevertheless it's not so Fury bins and he nonetheless has some ring rack that shakes in those early rounds. I feel he did sufficient to win an in depth but clear choice with even two drops.

Photograph: Esther Lin / Showtime

There was a spherical where Fury moved and blasted properly, and nonetheless touched enough to lose the round. Along with these two dropping rounds (9 and 12), it’s troublesome to seek out more than two that would have gone like Wilder.

The fact that Fury appeared so lusty does not mean he would have gained. I might agree with you if Fury hadn't crossed Wilder in jabs, power and complete curve.

I was happy with drawing, but truthfully stunned so many individuals shouted (or quite written) "robbery". I obtained it for Fury with two points (like Decide Robert Tapper) so I couldn't get too crazy to draw. (Hey, I'm not Fury Groupie or Teddy Atlas.)

Anatoly Lomachenko and his son. For a long time, this relationship seemed to me a bit of twisted. Papachenko is an outboard, however he’s with all his fighters. She doesn't treat her son higher or worse, but I can inform you that they respect each other as adults and professionals. I’ve discovered no interference once I've been round them in Oxnard, California (and trust me, I've been sick enough through the years, the father-son nyrkkeilysuosa). 19659002] It took a while to comprehend that this father-son factor is very often in boxing.

Perhaps not as powerful as in Lomachenkos, however there’s Mayweathers and right now Teofimo Lopez and Devin Haney are all the time with their fathers, isn't it? Are you able to point out other necessary examples? Mosleys (Jack and Shane), Calzaghes (Enzo and Joe), Judas (Yoel and Zab), Garcias (Eduardo and Robert; Angel and Danny), Donaires (Nonito Sr. and Jr.), Guerreros (Ruben and Robert) and Santa Cruzes (Jose and Leo) come to mind. From this group, I feel only Calzaghes and Garcias (both units) grabbed one from start to finish.

I just lately read that Papachenko refuses to train his son if he rises once more. Demons might say that he doesn’t want his undertaking, the "perfect warrior" to fail, but I’m inclined to see it as a sign father's care. I feel he doesn't need his son to harm. I agree, and I additionally consider that if she or he is a "perfectionist", who thinks that he’s (and you could be proper), he doesn’t want his son to battle the load, which weakens his general effectivity. I feel Anatoliy understands that Vacation has reached its limit of 135 kilos. Any of the heavier and the pound king's velocity, reflexes and mobility are more likely to be compromised.

I need to categorical my gratitude for the mailbox. Thank you for the late nights within the writings! Mailboxes make Monday more tolerable and even sweeter on Fridays. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us and on your gratitude, Hans.

LINEAL TITLE Degeneration

Hi Doug,

I am fascinated by the idea of the linear championship, and I do know that The Ring can report a champion, if they do not shield the title of Schedule Prime 5 opponent in two years. This can be a certainty that the grasp will check for the most effective of the most effective boxers.

But what if a shared grasp loses his / her resistance? For example, a legit champion loses the theoretical # 15, which then loses the theoretical # 100 and so on…

Might the Ring depart the "degenerate" line to start out again, the same it might pour one master? Is there a precedent? – Ben Simon, Saint Louis, Mo.

No, I don't know. For newcomers, the linear championship is just not the same as the Ring title. The linear championship begins when the fighter gets universal recognition as the champion in a specific division and is transferred to anybody who wins this champion in the ring. It additionally exists with or with out the world headline. For example, Naseem Hamed established himself as a master of badminton by studying all the most important straps (or, within the case of Wilfredo Vazquez, he gained a person who ought to hold his WBA title in the midst of the 1990s). Nevertheless, when Hamed fought and misplaced to Marco Antonio Barrera in 2001, no vital titles have been on the line, however the Mexican champion received a linear champion and held it until he lost to Manny Pacquia in 2003.

he was stripped of all of his largest zones (including The Ring's identify).

Typically the Linear and Ring Masters are the same, as within the case of Canelo Alvarez, who earned The Ring player Miguel Cotto, who gained Sergio Martinez, who gained Kelly Pavlik, who gained Bernard Hopkins, who was the final undisputed / Uniform Medium Master. Thus, the linear championship was re-started with B-Hop.

In any case, if the Ring or the linear headers are "degenerate" or "devalued" within the eyes of the viewers, because smaller or non-interfering fighters are disturbed by masters, it isn’t value removing or pulling the championship recognition from underdogs. (If anything, they should be celebrated.)

In addition to, it is often solely a matter of time earlier than the world-class or elite boxer takes the title of the tremendous individual.

Carlos Baldomir was thought-about a mean, at greatest as a distinctive competitor, before being shocked by the undisputed grasp Zab Judah in 2006. He defended the Ring / Linear title towards the commerce concept towards Arturo Gatti, but outdoors Floyd Mayweather.

Lately, Filipino junior-weight veteran Sonny Boy Jaro was on a troublesome journey before he shocked Thai legend Pongsakek Wonjongkam's The Ring / WBC (and I feel linear) flyweight titles in 2012. Jaro lost belts to Toshiyuki Igarash, who lost Akira Yaegashi after one protection and Yaegashi lost Roman Gonzalez.

So, the Ring / Linear headers that fell into the palms of "smaller" mopeds have been released quite shortly across the Pound-for-Pound Kings / Future Arches Hall. Every thing works, bro, but we give the underdogs the props they deserve during their 15-minute fame.

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