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Dougie's Friday Mail Bag (Pacquiao-Thurman, Hard and Light Heavy Wagons, Naoya Inoue)

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Manny Pacquiao and Keith Thurman stare at one another at the junction of July 20 once they had their 20 islands of July.


Hey Dougie,

Hope the whole lot is ok and you’ve got the prospect to hit again on the vacation weekend! Nothing is tremendous compulsive this weekend, so simply a few questions concerning the upcoming Pac / Thurman PPV, which simply received official.

Does it seem that Keith Thurman might have one foot out of the door? He dropped some strange quotes throughout this week's press tour. He instantly deserted the opportunity to struggle once more in 2019 and he talks about how he needs to be within the close to future. He's an intelligent guy, so I'm not stunned that he has his subsequent move, however it just seems like a nasty PR saying he's lively. I hope that we’ll see a pointy version of Manny and we expect he is absolutely able to making a choice towards a part-time master. Who do you help and what’s your confidence degree? Does it really feel 50-50, 60-40 or how do you see it enjoying?

Good news for Robeisy Ramirez! Do you assume that Prime Rank, on the idea of age and pedigree, is making an attempt to hurry him up as much as attainable from the gate? She is athletic like hell and was fun to observe in the course of the Olympics. Dare we might actually find yourself with a TV-friendly Cuban fighter?!?

Random Battle: Who would you choose if Regis & Mikey Garcia fought next? – DJ

I feel it’s a "pick – em-fight", but I help Garcia a bit because she has the expertise (and a slightly extra correct method, although the natural preventing fashion of Progris would serve her properly). I feel it might be an entertaining wrestle that is controversial from start to finish and in all probability bloody and cruel.

As far as Ramirez is worried, I have little question that Prime Rankin will all the time remedy him up to the title of the world. They know that he has such an enormous elite-amateur expertise (which incorporates winnings for the 2 present pro-stands – Tugstsogt Nyambayar and Shakur Stevenson in the 2012 and 2016 Olympics), which ought to assist the speedy improvement stage within the pro ranks. After only 11 professional bouts, Nyambayar and Stevenson are already Ring-listed feathers (No. eight and 10). Ramirez can in all probability attain the competitor's position within the first yr of professional. As a result of his liquid, sporty southern fashion, he’s more likely to gather a fair amount of commercial leap as he presents with ESPN. (Nevertheless, he does the job that needs to be carried out, but he isn’t the cleanest technician, and I do not like the fact that he’s typically coated when he is near his opponents, however he has a bow, an excellent physique assault and a terrific foot work. He has an excellent pro-trainer and He needs to study, he polishes shortly.)

My guess is that when Prime Rank helps Stevenson information the world title, they have Ramirez ready to challenge the previous novice competitor.

I hope every thing is ok and you might have the prospect to hit back on the vacation weekend! I hope, however we’ll end up frantically in the Ring Journal in August. Nevertheless, I try to attempt to see Avengers: Endgame. (Who am I determine fucking 11-year-old daughter Detective Pikachu?.)

There’s not very compelling this weekend, so solely a couple of questions on the longer term Pac / Thurman PPV from which came simply as official. You're not hyped with Masayuki Ito-Jamel Herring's WBO's 130-kg identify service on ESPN? I am!

Does it seem that Keith Thurman might have one foot out of the door? So, it felt like the last yr and a half through the yr. But now that he’s going to struggle with the upcoming first listening to hall, I can take him a bit extra critically than when he was on vacation in Asia.

He dropped some unusual quotes throughout this week's press tour. He does it when he isn’t within the press round. Keith is just a bit bizarre – in or out of the report. We simply need to get into it. Personally, I prefer it for him.

Keith and Shawn

He immediately rejected the opportunity to battle again in 2019 and he talks about how he needs to get in the near future. Thurman and Gary Russell Jr. are an important examples of how a gifted player Al Haymon / PBC has both a blessing and a curse. Particularly, Keith is a poster picture of the failed PBC's time and bid supply, which was tried a couple of years in the past by NBC, CBS, ESPN and Spike. He introduced PBC's first primeime NBC exhibition in March 2015 (towards Robert Guerrero), and then replied to Luis Collazo at his opening in ESPN and then took each Shawn Porter and Danny Garcia. Hundreds of thousands of viewers followed him to struggle and to mix the 2 major emphasis this yr in the course of the six months, and still in his progress in sports – regardless that his january return Josesito Lopez towards FOX for – is nearly non-existent, which is puzzling, given his expertise and achievements . But I can't blame all of it on PBC. Thurman's type has grow to be much less pleasant in recent times, and he sounded more like a pacesetter than a fighter in a lot of the interviews he made throughout sport.

She is an intelligent guy so I'm not stunned that she has her subsequent motion mapped, nevertheless it only feels dangerous PR saying that stuff when she's lively. I don't assume a modern fighter (not just Keith) has a PR idea, however it is good that they consider life after boxing when they are nonetheless in a sporty prime (I just need them to do more on their prime)

I hope that we see a pointy model of Manny and we expect he is absolutely capable of making a choice for a part-time grasp. You are not alone on this statement.

Who’s in favor and what is your confidence degree? I'm driving with Thurman right here. I'm not very assured about it. Pacquiao is 40 years previous, but he's a B-Hop-level older badass. Thurman must be athletic, but he has been so inactive that his improvement has significantly stopped (and he has never been a perfect fighter). Pacquiao has a variety of technical / defensive shortcomings. I know PacMonster 10 years ago would have used hell for Thurman's shortcomings, but I'm unsure that Manny's latest Senator version can do it.

Does it feel 50-50, 60-40, or how do you see it enjoying? So, it's in all probability 55-45 young men. I see Thurman profitable an in depth, in all probability controversial determination.


Hi Doug-

If Manny Pacquiao wins Keith Thurman on July 20, does he have a official declare to the world's highest weight? It might be the highest quality to win within the division because Shawn Porter gained Danny Garcia final fall.

Although we are on this area, what are your favorite hobbies in boxing history? Thanks. – Matt

No. 1 have to be the late career of Erik Morales in junior light-junior steel weight courses, which included two wins of 130kg (over arduous guys Jesus Chavez and Famoso Hernandez). competitor Marco Antonio Barrera, shocked by Manny Pacquiao, courageous position towards Marcos Maidan and Pablo Cesar Canon 11th Stops giving fourth title in fourth weight category. I used to be all the time a Barrera fan, so naturally I hated El Terrible during his prime years, however that salty Tijuana bull gained me towards the Barrera rubber model, Pacquiao trilogy and Chino. I had played for all these battles, and I had the honour of being there. Morales left most of us with great reminiscences.

In fact, Bernard Hopkin's record-breaking lightweight heavyweight – that includes three titles and victories for Antonio Tarver, Winky Wright, Kelly Pavlik, Jean Pascal, then unbeaten (24-Zero) Tavoris Cloud, and Joe Calzaghe – was a particular testimony and cowl .

If Manny Pacquiao wins Keith Thurman on July 20, does he have the proper to say the very best rank on the earth? Hmmmm. Perhaps. He is presently behind The Ring No. 5 behind the Errol Spence, Terence Crawford, Thurman and Shawn Porter. If he defeats our No. three (Keith), I think about there will probably be members of the Scores panel who declare he deserves to be No. 1.

  Manny Pacquiao. Photo Credit: Esther Lin / Showtime

And STILL… Philippine Individuals's… Manny Pacquiao! Photograph credit score: Esther Lin / Showtime

I feel the best way he wins Thurman (if he can do it) is an enormous factor. If both seem like s__t, I think somebody who’s all the time jumping to the highest spot, but if he turns the clock back and flashes, PacMan's form, fashion and lightning towards Thurman, nicely… perhaps he has an actual case 1. Spence's greatest wins are Mikey Garcia (who belongs to the sunshine), Clock Brook (who was damaged by the products and the probable weight was emptied) and Lamont Peterson (store). Crawford has solely three zones: Jeff Horn (who believed Pacquaio gained, including myself), the priceless Jose Benavidez and Amir Khan (the less stated the higher). Proper now, Thurman, who has lately been the most recent, had about 147 pounds, however his inefficiency has led him to decrease scores. If Pacquiao can add Keith's pony-tailed scalp to his current assortment, together with Tim Bradley, Jessie Vargas, Lucas Matthysse, and Adrien Broner, he (and his fan legion) can certainly claim that his salary is high.

can be the highest quality winner within the division because Shawn Porter gained Danny Garcia last fall. Accept 100%


I want to begin by saying that your content material is actually unbiased (because all of us have unbiased info). I've been a day by day reader for a while (the first time) and I respect your opinion lots.

I needed to get an concept of ​​whether you assume Sergei Kovalev has an excellent shot coming to the highest with 175 kilos. The place would you place him in historical past, then (if he combined one or two belts) and proper now? I feel he was robbing the first battle with Andre Ward. The best way he returned with Elieder Alvarez was additionally astonishing when everybody dropped him out. I'm an enormous fan Krusher and I additionally had doubts, who went to a rematch, and much more so on this deep division in.

I really feel his IQ and its jabin are more than anything that provides each belt employee hassle. His proper continues to be alive, but I don't assume he trusts it an excessive amount of. I feel his band is just too problematic for Beterbiev, who I feel is his greatest shot in unification. I needed him over Gvozdyk until Stevenson's match, now I feel he might be too much for Kovalev. It appears that evidently Bivol is a better, rounded mild weight for all four champions. Nevertheless, I really feel that if Smith might have harm him, I feel Kovalev has a shot when he can put his photographs and field. But I also don't assume Bivol can be lazy as he did when Smith received hit.

Greatest want for you and your family! – Carlos L.A.

Thanks on your sort phrases, Carlos, and thank you for finally sending an e mail to your inbox.

I consider the current 175 kg belt straps are consistent. Anyone of them can win another good night time, I feel

Is that this "old" fighter? Photograph / Stacey Verbeek

I agree that 36 years of age (and virtually ten years of wear and tear and tear in the physique Kovalev rely extra on his jabiinsa, experience and fingers IQ. Hen as his power ring to take a position Oleksandr Gvozdykin No. 1 lightweight within the heavy position ( followed by Kovalev and Bivol), but I feel Krusher is presently one of the best recreation play 175, so, in fact, if he can combine the titles in one other giant seat belts elements that he has established its place at the prime of the division, I feel that I additionally agree that Beterbiev is his greatest shot as a result of his Russian (and former amateur-competitor) has a rough future fashion as Gvozdyk is an effective boxer and counter-attack in the medium and lengthy distance, while Bivol's youthful athleticism, footwork and sideways movement can show to be problematic for older veteran


Hi Doug

Final Saturday we had two sides

On one aspect of the Showtime event, the place I obtained Mendez in at the very least two rounds and then Gary Russell struggle with one other superior opponent

Time to move up, Gary, within the last battle he spent more

I am glad that I can get Showtime program together with DAZN software, as a result of Showtime is a terrible match. Roberto Diaz is doing a better job for Golden Boy Promotions.

Good thing that I watched the WBSS beforehand because it was one other night time to remember. I was waiting for the monster to win the Knockout, however rattling he Vapors contest over 118. This man is something particular, and if he does it Donaire, I’m also absolutely febrile state.

Couldn't it have been potential to see him battle with Rungvisai if Srisaket rises up. Do you assume it's potential or would a monster be busy shifting round?

Baranchyk vs Taylor was another cracker and prop prop on Baranchyk to offer Taylor some warmth when he had virtually acquired earlier, which was Taylor's masterpiece.

Notice. – Andy

I agree that Baranchyk-Taylor was a huge battle and the Scottish plaid master class of crude a robust and powerful towards Russia. Taylor has to call for even higher performance to beat Progrias. (I have talked about that the free junior's The Ring's priority is granted World Boxing Super Collection 140-pound remaining winner?) Bless WBSS.

Time to move up, Gary, within the final battle, spent more time watching the entrance than watching the actual battle. As I tweeted the night time of the battle (and the allure of a few unusual followers), if Russell's subsequent battle just isn’t a competition for integration with Leo Santa Cruz, there isn’t a cause that he’ll keep about 126 kilos.

I’m glad that I can get Showtime program along with DAZN software, as a result of Showtime is a terrible match. Roberto Diaz is doing a greater job in Golden Boy campaigns. Diaz does a very good job (especially on GBP Thursday night time), however I feel Showtime was dangerous on the night time of Might 18th. The subscription cable community was wonderful in 2018, but they should share their PBC expertise with the FOX network now, and there’s more strain to make PPV events at the prime degree.

Good factor that I watched the WBSS beforehand as a result of it was another night time to remember. I waited for Monster to win the knockout, however he was steaming during his competition 118. Then Inoue used his nickname, and he made it to the top bantamweights that had never been stopped professional

This guy is something particular and if he does it to Donaire, I am additionally absolutely febrile state. I officially have Inoue Fever's proper freak now!

I’m wondering if we might see him struggle towards the Rungvisai battle if Srisaket rises up. Do you assume it's attainable or would the monster be too busy? I feel Inoue is 122 kilos when a Thai veteran is ready to be a part of the bantamweight division. If Sor Rungvisai disengages to struggle Inoua in the future, I feel it's Takuma.


Hey Doug,

Wow, simply wow. How impressive is Naoya Inoue? This small 118 pounder might be probably the most thrilling boxer on the earth. He can be the most effective. The best way he has sent his opponents and contemplating their experience of quality may be probably the most impressive fighter as we speak. His speed-power combination is incomparable and doesn't seem to be anyone who might match him. His first wrestle towards Rodriguez was very entertaining, and I might see a sophisticated battle for Monster. I even thought he confirmed cracks in his armor and a little bit of perseverance. However man, this second round of blitz, particularly the second drop, where the physique piercing was superb.

What do you assume? Am I improper to assume he’s one of the best? I really like Crawford, Spence and GGG, however this child, man, simply gained my boxing coronary heart. As much as I like Nonito, I don't assume he can survive over four to 5 rounds of this beast

Thanks Doug! – Juan Valverde, San Diego

King of Monsters?

I say a bit prayer to Nonito before he fought with Inoue, and I hope I will land in Los Angeles.

Are you mistaken to assume that Inoue is the perfect preventing recreation proper now? I wouldn't have denied you. She is certainly one of the best punch wheel (as The Ring announced her final yr to our statehood, which made Japanese boxing history by displaying her on the duvet), and she is certainly probably the most dynamic elite boxer. And no different fighter produces explosive pleasure besides Deontay Wilder (however Inoue does it for higher resistance for my part).

She has a really robust job of 26-year-old professional with 18 races, but I don't assume her CV contributes to Loma or Canelo, and I don't assume she'd had a kingdom (but) that was as dominant as Crawford and Golovkin have been these days. But he's proper there with great fighters (together with Oleksandr Usyk).

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