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Dougie's Friday Mail Bag (Canelo-Jacobs, Shakur Stevenson, Fazlidd Gaibnazarov, P4P No. 1, Road Warriors)

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Was the Canelo box an ideal (and entertaining) battle vs. Jacobs? Should he be No. 1 P4P? Does he journey outdoors america? These questions are asked and mentioned on this mailbox.


Hey Dougie,

Some pretty good battles on the weekend. What are you ready for many? Hurd brings the event out each time, so he has all the time named my ebook. A very good match for the DMV and J-Rock is certainly a dwelling canine.

Mannnn says that Usyk's information was a kick in nuts. I was really excited to see him eat at HW. Fun to see guys like Whyte & Wilder actively rejects his possibilities. Plainly AJ is the only HW that provides an trustworthy grip on the issues that he might trigger.

Previous Thoughts on Fazlidd Gaibnazarov? She has a wierd respectable newbie pedigree and is a pleasant stepping stone – what do you think of her ceiling? Do you assume his type turns nicely into pro-rows?

In the event that they fought subsequent, who would win Oscar Valdez & Shakur between Stevenson? Name me loopy, but I feel Stevenson will go up and win the choice conveniently. Valdez has acquired rough dudes, however I feel he's mature to take if he doesn't add new layers underneath Reynosos. – DJ

Photograph: Mikey Williams / Prime Rank

I like Stevenson as a dwelling canine vs. Valdez, in the event that they fought this yr, but if I don't see a critical slip from the Oscar in his next struggle, I might battle – examined WBO feather belt to maintain the title determination or late stopping. I feel it’s nice if fans and ESPN commentators (and the fighter himself) need to bounce to Stevenson's level the place they claim to be prepared for all the highest feather covers proper now, but I hope that his management is smarter and permits the young man (solely 21, who solely has 11 pro bouts) continues to develop their expertise whereas gaining an experience that permits him to maintain the title of the world when he wins. I don't assume his time is 2019, and I feel Andre Ward understands this. Regardless of being an obvious talent and talent in the 2004 Olympic culture, he and coach Virgil Hunter refused to assault the world-class opposition. It was virtually 5 years till he was ready for the World Championship. If Dre finished greater than four years, why do followers (and pundits) anticipate Stevenson to be prepared in less than three years?

Some fairly good battles this weekend this weekend. What are you waiting for most? There is a toss between Hurd-Williams and Berchelt-Vargas. I really like how each defend the headmasters to battle, and I feel the malnutrition challenges themselves higher than many anticipate. I'm wanting forward to in the present day's ShoBox supply with Thompson Boxing / Banner Promotions views of Ruben Villa and Michael Dutchover in one of many bouts. (It is rather satisfying to show the radar views developed on the California Membership Present Circuit – mainly on the Double Tree Lodge at Ontario Lodge – prematurely to the national spotlight. Plenty of respect for Thompson's boxing that may do this many times in 20 years in Biz.)

Hurd brings the event each time so he has all the time named my e-book. I haven't seen him but in a boring battle.

A very good match for the DMV and J-Rock is certainly a dwelling canine. I agree. As much as I like about Hurd and I take pleasure in watching him struggle, I feel the growing bandwagoners who need to be on pound-for-pound lists might solely contemplate this concept on Saturday.

Mannnnn says that Usyk's news was a kick in nuts. Oh, come on, it wasn't dangerous. It isn’t like we lack motion this month. We’ve got crucial occasions of FOX and ESPN (i.e. entertaining battles on very giant TV platforms in america, which is all the time wholesome for sport), and subsequent Saturday we’ve two wonderful World Boxing Super Six Semifinals (Inoue-Rodriguez and Baranchyk) Taylor) at DAZN (USA). Don't be greedy!

I used to be really excited to see him eat at HW. All of us have to be somewhat affected person. Do you want her to be 100% her heavyweight pro-debut? Wholesome Usyk ought to wait.

Enjoyable to see guys like Whyte & Wilder actively rejects his possibilities. I just say they’re hateful, they usually in all probability threaten him.

It appears that evidently AJ is the only HW that provides an trustworthy grip on the problems that he might cause. See why he's the world's 1-heavy weight. Joshua retains it 100.

Gaibnazarov takes it to Kevin Johnson. Photograph: Mikey Williams-TOP RANK

Earlier Thoughts on Fazlidd Gaibnazarov? Sure, there isn’t a point in the best way I write this full identify of Ubek each time he fights or when someone of you super-geeks brings him to the mailbox e-mail and I don't even try to say it, so what ought to I give him a jerky Americanized nickname? Fazzy? Gabi? F-Liddy? G-Naz? (I'm partial Fazzylle If he improves leg work for about 25% of the previous newbie nemesis Vassiliy Lomachenkon räpyläisistä toes, we will start by calling her Jazzy Fazzyksi..) [19659003] is a nice step within the struggle – what do you consider him in relation to kattoonsa? Troublesome to inform. Regardless of his advanced age (27) and his elite-amateur background (twice the Olympics and the 2016 Video games), he still has only seven expertise and has not but absolutely developed pro-style. I’ve met him and noticed him on the practice Egis Klimas in the health club in Oxnard, so I do know that he works arduous and has the potential, however time is operating out, and I nonetheless do not see him complete the pro-game.

Do you assume his fashion will flip properly into pro rows? I’m trustworthy. I saw him struggle alive (his fourth round of stopping Jesus Silveira) on the Linares-Lomachenko sub-card in NYC final Might, and I didn't discuss my capability or performance. He is an aggressive southpaw (whom I like) and he’s apparently very confident and cozy in the ring, but the photographs of the pot with lead lead are an excessive amount of to my style. I feel he needs to develop a constant blockage and land more when he is in the area. I have to see a cleaner method that has more affect on his photographs, and more mixtures before I turn out to be a believer.


Good day Dougie,

I hope this e-mail finds you and your family wholesome. I appeared at the Canelo-Jacobs matchup ready quite a bit, and I’ve to say that the battle didn't fail. Definitely, it wasn't a barn-burner Oscar and Eddie promised us, however it was a high-stack chess match that saw a greater fighter victory easily.

I saw the Canelon field superbly and I present the most effective defense we’ve seen him up to now. I personally assume that he gave Jacobs an excessive amount of respect and could have achieved more if he chose. Jacobs seemed to have disappeared from the primary rounds, and I feel he was shocked to understand that he had no advantage of hand velocity he thought he was doing.

The general analysis of the matchup is straightforward. Canelo is a much more full fighter than Jacobs and I had a Canelo win of eight to twelve rounds. Canelo is a true sports activities scholar and it seems like each trip. I can't see anyone 160 kg.

Lastly, individuals who complained of a boring battle (Golovkin) must understand that boxing is greater than two buddies who help each other until the others fall. In case you can't recognize the battle that occurred on Saturday night time, I recommend you comply with the mma and bare preventing. – Zeus from Texas

Aw, come to Mighty Zeus, I do know Greek gods may be small, but why do it’s a must to throw your thunderstorm to the OCT and BKB? I don't even comply with the OCT, but I know that as a way to be world class in that sport, you need to be one who is devoted to the boat as a world-class boxer, and you must grasp several preventing themes / methods. You’ll be able to't tell me they don't have the talent. And BKB is just boxing without gloves. If they need to crawl, they crawl; If they want a box, they are in the box. You don't need to tear one battle sport to help one other.

And also you don't should cheat with followers who needed more of an elite, pound-for-pound boxer and one of the world's greatest and most gifted midfields (who earned a combined $ 40-50 million) once they shared this yr the most important boxing occasion. Golovkin provides only two rivals s__t. He has shared the circle with them. He knows how good they’re, but he’s higher than them, and he in all probability doesn't like them so much (this is definitely the case of Canelon). That is truthful in this sport. Simply as it was truthful, followers of the T-Cellular area rose to GGG as quickly as his sunglasses-night Mug was shown on jumbotron screens. That is their right. It’s also the suitable of GGG and some fans to boo Canelo-Jacobs (and various of the Las Vegas arenas made it through the ultimate spherical of battle).

I hope this e-mail will discover you and your family in good well being. We're good, Zeus, thanks for the query.

I appeared on the Canelo-Jacobs matchup ready lots, and I have to say that the battle didn't fail. I’m glad to listen to that there are fans who have tuned their lives and enjoyed the expertise.

In fact it was not a barn burner Oscar and Eddie promised us, nevertheless it was a high guess chess recreation that noticed a greater fighter win easily. And this fighter was undoubtedly Canelo.

I saw the Canelon box superbly and I present one of the best protection we have now seen from him up to now. I agree. When was the final time we noticed that Jacobs didn't get so many punches – every spherical !?

I feel he gave Jacobs too much respect and could have finished extra if he chose. I feel BOTH men gave an excessive amount of respect and will do more. That's why I was so annoyed in battle! But hey, it occurs in boxing, even with huge fighters. In 1983, Roberto Duran's challenge to Marvin Hagler was to supply Sweet Savagery, not Sweet Science. Duran was already a dwelling legend, and he was brutal to Pipino Cuevas and Davey Moore earlier that yr, whereas Hagler, who had made seven defenses in the undisputed midweight, was all on the prime of the technical destroyer. So what happened once they shared the tire in November in Las Vegas? They delivered a 15-round boxing match. Ten years later, two future spirits – Roy Jones Jr. and Bernard Hopkins – gave one another an excessive amount of respect of their somewhat obscure first encounter. It's occurring.

Jacobs seemed to have disappeared in the course of the first rounds, and I feel he was shocked to understand that he had no hand velocity benefit. I do not consider that Canelo's hand velocity shocked him, I feel the lofty head and upper physique movement of the Mexican star threw him away.

The general evaluation of the matchup is straightforward. Canelo is a much more complete fighter than Jacobs and I had a Canelo win of eight to twelve rounds. I can't dispute your score or score (though I don't assume Canelo is rather more full than Jacobs, I feel he had a simpler type and recreation plan on Might four.)

Canelo is a real sports activities scholar and looks like each tour. I can't see anybody 160 kg. unload Canelo anytime soon. Nor am I, but I don't assume GGG or Demetrius Andrade are walking within the park.


Hey Dougie!

You haven't written for you for a long time, hope you do good!

Many people (for instance, Mexican followers and Golden Boy members) stated Canelo's victory must be crowned because the P4P King. Properly, he gained Jacobs convincingly, however no approach P4P # 1 for me. Canelo does every little thing proper: nice defense, strategy, great boxing and good general results, but is he even half as particular as Vacation?

Pair of World Championships:
Fairly Boy Floyd vs. Loma at SFW and LW

Chico Corrales vs. Vacation at SFW and LW

Castillo vs. Loma at LW

19659003] I want you and your family all the most effective and thanks once more for the good work! – HB

Thanks for the type phrases, HB.

Going with Mayweather by an in depth choice (perhaps a controversial mild), Vacation with a transparent determination from Chic 130 and 135, and Vacation very shut (perhaps a controversial determination) from Castillo 135.

Canelo wanders at Cotto

Can Canelo ”even half as a lot particular 'like Holiday? Yeah, I'd wish to say he's no less than half, but no, he's not as massive as the Ukrainian course for mixing the pure means, offensive and dynamic crime and defense, and the distinctive type of boxing. Nevertheless, the work area at Canelo is obvious. The Guadalajara native has encountered 4 future fames halls earlier than the age of 28: Floyd Mayweather, Miguel Cotto, Shane Mosley and GGG. The place are Loma Professionals in the Loma Pro Program? Canelo has additionally met several prime rivals 154 and 160 kilos, including Erislandy Lara, Jacobs and Austin Trout. Having stated this, he lost to Mayweather, and lots of fans thought he had misplaced to Golovkin and Lara (some even thought the trout may need been drawn), so he would hold him again to the pound-for-pound conversation. Trendy fans need the P4P King to be technically flawless and decisive, which is why most of them go together with either Loma or Terence Crawford among the elites.

Personally, I don't give a rat ass that isn’t 1. I feel there are six or seven elite boxers who have clearly separated themselves from other sports activities with their achievements and finger, and that the group consists of Loma, Bud, Canelo, Usyk, Inoue, Spence and GGG . I'm just glad that most of the pound-for-pound gamers (along with Mikey and the newly topped Ring with junior bantamweight champion, by Champ Estrada). I just want them to battle good resistance.


day Dougie,

I hope you’re nicely and say your prayer at night time.

I hope that, regardless of the mailbox, I will get a recurring matter, however I feel it will be significant given the future of Jacobs and Canelo and Canelo and the opposite fighters.

For clarification, I know that applying the standards to a fighter's profession is subjective, nevertheless it's as shut as we get, so you talked about in your final mailbox: "We're just leaving" Money "in Mayweather's era (2007-2015; 2017 if you count McGregor's" battle ") , at a time when the pound-for-pound king and senior employee took on the low-risk and rewarding philosophy and appeared proud to make unpunished battles, so it shouldn't come as a shock if a few of right now's prime researchers are unapologetic about collaborating in high-profile dud. ”[19659003] (So as to be truthful, Rep is bringing your quote from your first reply to your last mailbox and you didn't need to determine to make your level, however I don't assume the remaining have been significant to me.)

As soon as within the struggle, the decide assessed whether or not he was "traveling" or not. never fought over Outdoors, Canelo has hardly even fought outdoors the southern US and Mexico, but Anthony Joshua traveled right here to see what was one of the best American HW competitor when he might also think of staying within the UK and making a lot of money to defend his hometown's hometown identical to Mayweather's protegé – Canelo.

Do you assume the trip is necessary on the subject of deciding whether or not the fighter will be the first ballot HOF & # 39;

Secondly, I might love to hear your views on combining battles. All of us hear the identical script, which is nearly every newly crowned vyönpidikkeestä – "I want to unite," I am here to get all of the belts and show to be one of the best. "

How lengthy (and of course you once stated that context is essential, so each case may be evaluated in another way) earlier than the zoner or what number of battles are assumed to be hypothetically allowed before the criticism is justified or deserved? Adonis Stevenson, who was heavily criticized for not linking jumps (or at the very least till the top of his profession) with 50-50 attempts? – Kio

I don't assume fighters must be dashing to merge titles, especially if they are younger and evolving David Lemieux is an effective example, he gained the free IBF by writing Hassan Ndam and instantly faced GGG's association about three months later, was 25 occasions at the moment, was not prepared for Golovkin, and he had by no means utterly returned to his career and most hardcore fans don't even give him a refund for GGG when Kazakhstan was at its peak. The boxing world could be very rare

I feel Danny Roman and TJ Doheny did it proper. (Each traveled to Japan to win their 122 pound world championship.) Roman acquired three defenses in one yr and then took a harmful Irishman who had made one d his identify earlier. The end result was a hell of a battle that raised the expansion of both fighters. Roman continues to be indignant to mix 122 kilos of unsurpassed WBC identify servers towards Rey Vargas.

Danny does it proper. I feel it might be a yr or two to grace, but when the zone talks about integration, she (Clare Shields and Katie Taylor did not waste any time getting all the zones in their zone) stroll (or close f__k up).

As soon as the fighter was convicted of whether or not or not he "traveled". Mayweather by no means fought outdoors the states, Canelo has rarely fought outdoors the southern US and Mexico, but Anthony Joshua traveled right here to see what was one of the best American HW competitor when he might also think of staying within the UK and making a lot of money Defending his zone to the benefit of the hometown, identical to Mayweather's protegé – Canelo. Dude, Alvarez was born in Mexico. He lives there. So obviously he’s TRAVELED outdoors his nation. Joshua, the 2012 Olympic champion, introduces his US debut as a 29-year-old composer at age 29. Canelo made his US debut (vs. Larry Mosley, adorned with American novice standout in October 2008) at the age of 18. yr previous. Who actually thinks you deserve extra credit score? Yeah, AJ could make some huge cash by preventing in the UK, but probably the most money he could make in one battle is Deontay Wilder in the USA. That's why he fights at NYC on June 1. He has to introduce himself to the American publicly in hopes that the presentation with Wilder could be achieved later this yr or typically in 2020. If this fights each single event, you’ll be able to greatest consider that it’ll land in Las Vegas, because there’s probably the most money, why Canelo and Mayweather he typically fought there.

Ali opens a rematch for Joe Bugner in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Picture of RING

Do you assume travel will affect when it's time to determine if the fighter is the primary ballot HOF? Yes and no. I consider that the world traveler is part of the good boxers of all time, akin to Muhammad Ali (who ventured from the US 14 occasions – 15 when you’ve got fallen to Puerto Rico – 11 totally different nations and four continents), reputation and folklore. Sugar Ray Robinson (who traveled around Europe in 1950 and 51) fought in several cities in France, England, Germany, Switzerland and Belgium. And I feel that the willingness to go away their residence nation with overseas resistance within the turf speaks of a robust character, which is clearly something the famous voters are contemplating when selecting. Nevertheless, there are some good-earning American rulers who did not journey A's good outdoors the US throughout their professional profession, corresponding to Billy Conn, Tony Zale, Rocky Graziano, Jake LaMotta and Michael Spinks, and no one can deny them reward.

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